Chronic Kidney Disease Dialysis and Transplantation

Chronic Kidney Disease  Dialysis  and Transplantation
Author: T. Alp Ikizler
Publsiher: Elsevier
Total Pages: 768
Release: 2018-10
ISBN: 9780323529785
Category: Electronic Book
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Chronic Kidney Disease Dialysis and Transplantation Book Excerpt:

From basic science to practical clinical tools, Chronic Kidney Disease, Dialysis, and Transplantation, 4th Edition provides you with the up-to-date, authoritative guidance you need to safely and effectively manage patients with chronic renal disease. Covering all relevant clinical management issues, this companion volume to Brenner and Rector's The Kidney presents the knowledge and expertise of renowned researchers and clinicians in the fields of hemodialysis, peritoneal dialysis, critical care nephrology, and transplantation - for an all-in-one, indispensable guide to every aspect of this fast-changing field. Contains expanded content on economics and outcomes of treatment, as well as acute kidney injury. Covers hot topics such as the genetic causes of chronic kidney disease, ethical challenges and palliative care, and home hemodialysis. Discusses the latest advances in hypertensive kidney disease, vitamin D deficiency, diabetes management, transplantation, and more. Provides a clear visual understanding of complex information with high-quality line drawings, photographs, and diagnostic and treatment algorithms. Expert ConsultT eBook version included with purchase. This enhanced eBook experience allows you to search all of the text, figures, and references from the book on a variety of devices.

Chronic Kidney Disease Dialysis and Transplantation

Chronic Kidney Disease  Dialysis  and Transplantation
Author: Brian J. G. Pereira,Mohamed H. Sayegh,Peter Gerard Blake
Publsiher: W B Saunders Company
Total Pages: 924
Release: 2005
ISBN: 1928374650XXX
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Chronic Kidney Disease Dialysis and Transplantation Book Excerpt:

This expanded and revised companion to Brenner & Rector's The Kidney delivers a new bench to bedside review of the management of patients with end-stage renal disease. Leaders in the field present expert coverage on the physiologic principles and clinical applications of different methods of renal replacement therapy as well as the most recent guidelines from the National Kidney Foundation regarding dialysis. With 4 new section editors, new authors, 50% more content, this new edition constitutes a sweeping revision to this popular text. Presents the expertise of distinguished researchers and clinicians in the fields of hemodialysis, peritoneal dialysis, critical care nephrology, and transplantation. Provides comprehensive coverage of clinical management issues of chronic kidney disease and dialysis and transplantation. Features illustrations, including diagnostic and treatment algorithms, line drawings, and photographs. Includes a complete list of references in each chapter. Includes two new large sections-Chronic Kidney Disease and Complications of Chronic Kidney Disease, reflecting the latest advances and management options available. Discusses the complications of chronic kidney disease, including medical issues, pediatric patients, inflammation, and other management problems. Presents the basics of CKD, including epidemiology, diabetic kidney disease, and the role of the CKD clinic. Offers a new section, plus new chapters on acute renal failure. Addresses the economics of CKD/ESRD and emerging hemodialysis therapies, such as water therapy. Uses a new 2-color design throughout.

Chronic Kidney Disease Dialysis and Transplantation E Book

Chronic Kidney Disease  Dialysis  and Transplantation E Book
Author: Jonathan Himmelfarb,T. Alp Ikizler
Publsiher: Elsevier Health Sciences
Total Pages: 768
Release: 2018-11-06
ISBN: 0323531725
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Chronic Kidney Disease Dialysis and Transplantation E Book Book Excerpt:

Contains expanded content on economics and outcomes of treatment, as well as acute kidney injury. Covers hot topics such as the genetic causes of chronic kidney disease, ethical challenges and palliative care, and home hemodialysis. Discusses the latest advances in hypertensive kidney disease, vitamin D deficiency, diabetes management, transplantation, and more. Provides a clear visual understanding of complex information with high-quality line drawings, photographs, and diagnostic and treatment algorithms.

Chronic Kidney Disease and Renal Transplantation

Chronic Kidney Disease and Renal Transplantation
Author: Manisha Sahay
Publsiher: BoD – Books on Demand
Total Pages: 238
Release: 2012-02-10
ISBN: 9535100033
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Chronic Kidney Disease and Renal Transplantation Book Excerpt:

This valuable resource covers inpatient and outpatient approaches to chronic renal disease and renal transplant with clinical practicality. This first section of the book discusses chronic disease under distinct topics, each providing the readers with state-of-the-art information about the disease and its management. It discusses the fresh perspectives on the current state of chronic kidney disease. The text highlights not just the medical aspects but also the psychosocial issues associated with chronic kidney disease. The latest approaches are reviewed through line diagrams that clearly depict recent advances. The second section of the book deals with issues related to transplant. It provides effective and up-to-date insight into caring for your transplant patients.

A Practical Manual of Renal Medicine

A Practical Manual of Renal Medicine
Author: Anonim
Publsiher: Unknown
Total Pages: 135
Release: 2022
ISBN: 9814468711
Category: Electronic Book
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

A Practical Manual of Renal Medicine Book Excerpt:

Chronic Kidney Disease Dialysis and Transplantation

Chronic Kidney Disease  Dialysis  and Transplantation
Author: Jonathan Himmelfarb,Mohamed H. Sayegh
Publsiher: Saunders
Total Pages: 737
Release: 2010
ISBN: 9781437709872
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Chronic Kidney Disease Dialysis and Transplantation Book Excerpt:

A companion to Brenner and Rector's The Kidney-covers all clinical management issues relevant to chronic kidney disease. Drs. Jonathan Himmelfarb and Mohamed Sayegh lead a team of expert contributors to present you with the latest advances in hypertensive kidney disease, vitamin D deficiency, diabetes management, transplantation, and more. Himmelfarb and Sayegh give you all of the basic science and clinical tools to properly manage patients with chronic renal disease.

A Patient s Guide to Dialysis and Transplantation

A Patient   s Guide to Dialysis and Transplantation
Author: J.R.T Gabriel
Publsiher: Springer Science & Business Media
Total Pages: 180
Release: 2012-12-06
ISBN: 9400907338
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

A Patient s Guide to Dialysis and Transplantation Book Excerpt:

In many ways this book is a team effort. Many people have helped me in writing it. Firstly, I thank my wife who read the manuscript twice correcting grammatical errors and spelling and clarifying many sentences. Secondly, I thank friends and colleagues at St. Mary's Hospital, including Mrs Jean Emerson, Renal Unit Social Worker and Mrs June Morgan, Senior Dietician, both of whom contributed technical information; Sisters Christine Holmes and Malinie Polpitiye who read and criticized some chapters; Miss Mary Williams, Mr Robert Minor and Mr Richard Viner who as patients read some sections and made useful suggestions. My thanks are due to Miss Veronica Adams who typed most of the manuscript and also to Mrs June Marshall and Miss Joyce Meadows who helped with typing and much photocopying. I must thank Baxter Healthcare whose generous financial support enabled this book to be published. The editorial staff of MTP Press have been very helpful, rapid and efficient in publishing the text. If any reader wants to know more about renal disease, there are several good introductory books on renal medicine available. I am sure that the local public library will be pleased to help. Any parts of this book that are wrong or misleading are my responsibility. If anyone has the energy to point out errors to me I will try to correct them in any subsequent edition.

Psychosocial Aspects of Chronic Kidney Disease

Psychosocial Aspects of Chronic Kidney Disease
Author: Daniel Cukor,Scott D. Cohen,Paul L. Kimmel
Publsiher: Academic Press
Total Pages: 576
Release: 2020-10-01
ISBN: 0128170816
Category: Psychology
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Psychosocial Aspects of Chronic Kidney Disease Book Excerpt:

Psychosocial Aspects of Chronic Kidney Disease: Exploring the Impact of CKD, Dialysis, and Transplantation on Patients provides an overview of the emotional and psychological challenges faced by people with renal disease. This book outlines the epidemiology and treatment of the psychosocial factors affecting them. The sections in the book cover psychiatric illness in the earlier and middle stages of chronic kidney disease, end-stage renal disease treated with dialysis, and renal transplantation. The book concludes with a section on special considerations, delving into topics such as treating children and adolescents, quality of life, caregiver burden, challenges in psychosocial research in kidney disease, and future directions for intervention. Includes chapters that are written by a leading group of international researchers Emphasizes practical approaches to patient care and treatment issues Explores psychosocial issues related to hemodialysis and peritoneal dialysis Discusses available treatment for anxiety, depression, sleep disturbances, pain, nonadherence, cognitive dysfunction, palliative care, and other psychosocial concerns

Present and Future Therapies for End stage Renal Disease

Present and Future Therapies for End stage Renal Disease
Author: Eli A. Friedman,Mary C. Mallappallil
Publsiher: World Scientific
Total Pages: 204
Release: 2010
ISBN: 9814280038
Category: Chronic renal failure
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Present and Future Therapies for End stage Renal Disease Book Excerpt:

Written by an interdisciplinary team of experts, this book contains historical information as well as current update on renal replacement therapy. New technology and techniques are presented in a concise, easy-to-read style that keeps the reader interested. The contributors include physicians who practise uremia therapy since its conception to more recent graduates, along with surgeons, pioneers and physicians who are patients themselves, thus giving readers the broadest perspective. The aim of the book is to update the reader on renal replacement therapy as of 2009. It is a textbook that can be read cover to cover and still serve as a fine reference guide. The book is targeted at anyone interested in kidney replacement therapy, from students and patients to the professorial level.

Clinical Studies Big Data and Artificial Intelligence in Nephrology and Transplantation

Clinical Studies  Big Data  and Artificial Intelligence in Nephrology and Transplantation
Author: Wisit Cheungpasitporn,Wisit Kaewput
Publsiher: MDPI
Total Pages: 374
Release: 2021-09-02
ISBN: 3036511342
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Clinical Studies Big Data and Artificial Intelligence in Nephrology and Transplantation Book Excerpt:

In recent years, artificial intelligence has increasingly been playing an essential role in diverse areas in medicine, assisting clinicians in patient management. In nephrology and transplantation, artificial intelligence can be utilized to enhance clinical care, such as through hemodialysis prescriptions and the follow-up of kidney transplant patients. Furthermore, there are rapidly expanding applications and validations of comprehensive, computerized medical records and related databases, including national registries, health insurance, and drug prescriptions. For this Special Issue, we made a call to action to stimulate researchers and clinicians to submit their invaluable works and present, here, a collection of articles covering original clinical research (single- or multi-center), database studies from registries, meta-analyses, and artificial intelligence research in nephrology including acute kidney injury, electrolytes and acid–base, chronic kidney disease, glomerular disease, dialysis, and transplantation that will provide additional knowledge and skills in the field of nephrology and transplantation toward improving patient outcomes.

Prevention and Treatment of Chronic Kidney Disease and Kidney Failure The Common Man s Guide

Prevention and Treatment of Chronic Kidney Disease and Kidney Failure   The Common Man s Guide
Author: Dr. Prashant C Dheerendra
Publsiher: Dr. Prashant C Dheerendra
Total Pages: 72
Release: 2020-05-21
ISBN: 1928374650XXX
Category: Health & Fitness
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Prevention and Treatment of Chronic Kidney Disease and Kidney Failure The Common Man s Guide Book Excerpt:

"Dr.Prashant C Dheerendra has done an admirable job of distilling what is important from the patient point of view. Information overload has been avoided, and visuals have been used to present information in an accessible way. I'm confident that this book will be useful to anyone looking to manage their health better, and congratulate Dr. Prashant for having written it." Dr.Vivekanand Jha MD DM FRCP FAMS President, International Society of Nephrology Professor of Nephrology and James Martin Fellow, University of Oxford Kidney failure is the last stage of chronic kidney disease(CKD). The most important risk factors are diabetes and high blood pressure. Even though the risk factors are very common in the community, awareness about their effects on the kidneys is poor. Since the disease is chronic, it can be present for years and even decades with no symptoms. Hence it is diagnosed quite late in its course. Acceptance of the diagnosis is difficult as symptoms can be trivial even with severe disease. Then there is always the temptation of trying unproven, unscientific treatment offered by quacks as a simple solution to what is really a complex disease process. On the whole more than the disease it is the fear and lack of awareness that extracts a big toll on the patient, her family and society at large. Dr.Prashant C Dheerendra, a well known nephrologist (kidney specialist) from Bangalore, India has written this book to provide the readers with a simple but effective path to prevent and treat chronic kidney disease. The emphasis is on prevention in the early stages. In the later stages preparing well for dialysis and kidney transplantation is emphasized. At all stages advice is given to maintain one's independence and quality of life. "This book is lucidly written and simplifies the process of taking care of patients with chronic kidney disease (CKD). I will certainly recommend this book not only to my own CKD patients but also to health care workers in this eld, as a friendly guide on the path to better health." Dr. Gokulnath Director Nephrology Services, Apollo Hospitals, Bangalore "This book is a simple and easy to understand guide on all aspects of kidney disease from prevention of chronic kidney disease to dialysis. Everything written in these pages is validated information. The effort put in by Dr. Prashant needs to be commended wholeheartedly." Dr. H. Sudarshan Ballal Chairman - Manipal Hospitals and Director of Manipal Institute of Nephrology and Urology

Chronic Renal Disease

Chronic Renal Disease
Author: Paul L. Kimmel,Mark E. Rosenberg
Publsiher: Academic Press
Total Pages: 1390
Release: 2019-08-28
ISBN: 0128158778
Category: Science
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Chronic Renal Disease Book Excerpt:

Chronic Renal Disease, Second Edition, comprehensively investigates the physiology, pathophysiology, treatment and management of chronic kidney disease (CKD). This translational reference takes an in-depth look at CKD with no coverage of dialysis or transplantation. Chapters are devoted to the scientific investigation of chronic kidney disease, the most common problems faced by nephrologists in the management of chronic kidney disease, specific illnesses in the CKD framework, and how the management of CKD in a polycystic kidney disease patient differs from other CKD patients. This award-winning reference features a series of case studies, covering both clinical aspects and pathophysiology. Questions are open ended, progressively more difficult, and repetitive across different patient clinical problems and different chapters. The cases and questions included will be useful for medical students, residency board reviews, and clinician teaching or conference preparation. Includes case studies and questions which can be used as a teaching tool for medical students and resident Provides coverage of classification and measurement, epidemiology, pathophysiology, complications of CKD, fluid/electrolyte disorders in CKD, CKD and systemic illnesses, clinical considerations, therapeutic considerations, and special considerations

Chronic Kidney Disease in Disadvantaged Populations

Chronic Kidney Disease in Disadvantaged Populations
Author: Guillermo Garcia-Garcia,Lawrence Agodoa,Keith C. Norris
Publsiher: Academic Press
Total Pages: 398
Release: 2017-07-08
ISBN: 0128043822
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Chronic Kidney Disease in Disadvantaged Populations Book Excerpt:

Chronic Kidney Disease in Disadvantaged Populations investigates the increased incidence and prevalence of kidney disease in vulnerable populations world-wide. The volume explores the complex interactions of genetic, biologic, cultural and socioeconomic factors such as the environment, and specific health behaviors that seem to be responsible for a significant proportion of the health disparities in these communities. Each chapter is written by leading experts in the field and analyzes the prevalence and incidence of pre-dialysis kidney disease in disadvantaged populations across both developed and developing countries. In addition, each contribution analyzes differentiated risk factors and compares the disparities in access to screening, prevention strategies, treatment protocols and renal replacement therapies. Chronic Kidney Disease in Disadvantaged Populations is essential reading for residents, fellows, clinicians and biomedical researchers working in nephrology, internal medicine, and epidemiology, especially those working in areas with high concentrations of disadvantaged populations. Presents a comprehensive account of both traditional and non-traditional risk factors for kidney disease Explores the mechanisms by which poverty increases the burden of kidney disease in these populations, barriers to access to renal health care, including renal replacement therapies, organ donation, and organ commercialization Offers the latest perspectives on outcomes in renal replacement therapies as well as prevention strategies

Primer on Kidney Diseases

Primer on Kidney Diseases
Author: Alfred K. Cheung
Publsiher: Elsevier Health Sciences
Total Pages: 624
Release: 2005-01-01
ISBN: 1416023127
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Primer on Kidney Diseases Book Excerpt:

An official publication of the National Kidney Foundation (NKF), the book provides a current overview of the pathophysiology, diagnosis, and management of kidney diseases, fluid and electrolyte disorders, hypertension, dialysis, and kidney transplantation. Includes new chapters on pathogenesis and pathophysiology of diabetic nephropathy and genetic basis of glomerular and structural kidney disorders.

The Story of the First Kidney Transplant in Guyana South America

The Story of the First Kidney Transplant in Guyana  South America
Author: Rahul M. Jindal
Publsiher: iUniverse
Total Pages: 240
Release: 2009-11
ISBN: 1440173877
Category: Fiction
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

The Story of the First Kidney Transplant in Guyana South America Book Excerpt:

The first part of the book narrates the story of a single mother from Georgetown in Guyana who made an appeal to help her son dying of kidney failure to obtain a kidney transplant which was not available in their country. They needed help to travel to India to get the transplant. The flyer appealing for help lands in the hands of a Guyanese-American, George Subraj, who is intrigued by this appeal. He seeks the help of Indian-born Transplant Surgeon, Dr. Rahul M. Jindal, who, in turn, organizes a medical team to perform the surgery. This is also a story of how Americans come together to save the life of a young man in Guyana, whose determined single mother refused to give up. In the second part of the book, the social aspects of transplantation are discussed which include medical compliance, anxiety and depression in kidney transplant recipients and social networks pertaining to kidney transplantation. In the third part of the book, the economics of kidney transplantation in developing countries are discussed, along with the economics of peritoneal versus hemodialysis, pre-emptive kidney transplantation for developing countries, health policy for treating renal failure in developing countries and finally commercialization of kidney transplantation - a problem which is increasing world-wide.

Approaches to Chronic Kidney Disease

Approaches to Chronic Kidney Disease
Author: Jerry McCauley,Seyed Mehrdad Hamrahian,Omar H. Maarouf
Publsiher: Springer Nature
Total Pages: 450
Release: 2021-10-18
ISBN: 3030830829
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Approaches to Chronic Kidney Disease Book Excerpt:

Chronic kidney disease (CKD) is a major global public health problem, affecting nearly one in seven adults in the United States alone. It is a disease that integrates chronic illness at several levels, and the progressive condition is associated with high rates of co-morbidity. This text provides a comprehensive, current state-of-the art review of this field, serving as a valuable resource for primary care providers and non-nephrology clinicians that treat patients with CKD. It is comprised of 24 chapters focused on specific aspects of the disease. The first 2 chapters provide a bit of background on the disease, describing the anatomy and physiology of the kidney as well as the definition and epidemiology of the disease. The following 3 chapters discuss the detection, prevention and progression of the disease. The next 6 chapters describe the relationship of the disease with other conditions and most common co-morbidities such as diabetes and hypertension. The chapters, that follow focus on the CKD associated complications and the CKD within special populations such as the elderly and minorities as well as dietary restrictions and drug dosing. The book concludes with discussion on preparation for renal replacement therapy and preemptive organ transplantation as an alternative to dialysis in the management of the advanced CKD. Written by experts in the field, Approach to Chronic Kidney Disease is a comprehensive guide for clinicians, especially primary care providers including residents and fellows in training, who take care of chronic kidney disease patients. It is also a useful tool for researchers dealing with this challenging field.

End Stage Renal Disease ECAB

End Stage Renal Disease   ECAB
Author: Ravi Raju Tatapudi
Publsiher: Elsevier Health Sciences
Total Pages: 205
Release: 2013-07-16
ISBN: 8131232018
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

End Stage Renal Disease ECAB Book Excerpt:

With the increase in lifestyle-related diseases like diabetes and hypertension the prevalence of Chronic Kidney Disease (CKD) is increasing exponentially and with it is increasing the burden of its ominous consequence, End Stage Renal Disease (ESRD). While ESRD is no longer a death sentence with the advent of efficient renal replacement therapies and the success of renal transplantation, factors such as high cost of these procedures, limited availability of donated kidneys and not enough number of centers equipped with these facilities puts the effective management of ESRD beyond the reach of an average person many-a-times. Additionally the presence of co-existing diseases that contribute to and sometimes complicate the renal impairment as well as delayed referral of the patients to nephrologists also makes matters worse. ESRD is not just a medical but also a social and economic condition that devastates the person and his/her entire family. Hence, early detection and effective prevention of progression of CKD in early stages to advanced CKD and ESRD is the call of the day. In fact, understanding the pathophysiology of the condition and adopting methods of primordial prevention in populations at risk may be desirable to ensure reduction in the incidence of CKD. In those with established CKD, a proactive approach to manage the disease manifestations and limit the ravages of other comorbidities is desirable. For those in advanced stages of CKD, the institution of an appropriate renal replacement therapy individually suited to the patient keeping in view the medical status, lifestyle requirements, economic viability and social acceptability should be advised. This book will help the reader understand the intricacies of the aspects mentioned above and guide the practitioner to diagnose and manage End Stage Renal Disease with special reference to practical experience of the same in India. The authors have put together the most relevant facts about the disease for an easy comprehension and understanding of the same by practitioners and students across the specialty.

Formal analysis policy formulation and end stage renal disease

Formal analysis  policy formulation  and end stage renal disease
Author: Anonim
Publsiher: DIANE Publishing
Total Pages: 135
Release: 2022
ISBN: 1428924485
Category: Electronic Book
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Formal analysis policy formulation and end stage renal disease Book Excerpt:

Frailty and Kidney Disease

Frailty and Kidney Disease
Author: Carlos Guido Musso,José Ricardo Jauregui,Juan Florencio Macías-Núñez,Adrian Covic
Publsiher: Springer Nature
Total Pages: 203
Release: 2020-09-10
ISBN: 3030535290
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Frailty and Kidney Disease Book Excerpt:

This unique book reviews the information available in the literature regarding the new syndrome, frailty, in patients with various renal conditions, such as acute kidney injury, chronic kidney disease, as well as dialysis and transplant patients. The topic is of importance in nephrology, specifically nephrogeriatrics, since frailty is a condition affecting many elderly patients and which is becoming increasingly common in medical practice. As such, there is a considerable need for information to assist professionals treating these patients. The book includes chapters on the frailty syndrome (definition, evaluation and treatment), the main geriatric syndromes (gait disorder, falls, incontinence, and delirium), the main renal syndromes (acute renal injury, chronic kidney disease) as well as dialysis and kidney transplant, and the relationship between geriatrics and renal syndromes. Frailty and Kidney Disease: A Practical Guide to Clinical Management is an essential resource for general practitioners, researchers, internal medicine physicians, geriatricians, and nephrologists.

Clinical Decisions in Nephrology Hypertension and Kidney Transplantation

Clinical Decisions in Nephrology  Hypertension and Kidney Transplantation
Author: Edgar V. Lerma,Mitchell Rosner
Publsiher: Springer Science & Business Media
Total Pages: 676
Release: 2012-10-28
ISBN: 1461444543
Category: Medical
Language: EN, FR, DE, ES & NL

Clinical Decisions in Nephrology Hypertension and Kidney Transplantation Book Excerpt:

Through case presentations and a question and answer format, Clinical Decisions in Nephrology, Hypertension and Renal Transplantation provides a state of the art, updated reference for the optimal management of patients with diseases of the kidneys, and hypertension. This volume starts with the assessment of the patient, focusing on history and physical examination. Subsequently, cases depicting various clinical syndromes and/or diseases are presented, with questions centering on the appropriate diagnostic and treatment strategy. This sets the stage for a ‘Socratic approach’ to learning between the attending physician and the house staff or medical student. This is the only book featuring problem-oriented true to life clinical cases in this format to cover nephrology, hypertension and kidney transplantation. Written by renowned actively practicing clinicians, this unique reference is both comprehensive and concise and will be of great value to hospitalists and internists, as well as students, and interns/residents rotating in nephrology and internal medicine. Clinical practitioners, in the fields of critical care and hypertension specialists would also find this of value.